How would one control the means of production that they don't even use themselves? How would a capitalist extract the surplus value from his workers? How would a landlord extract rent from his tenant?
Thanks very much if you could clear this out for me guys
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How would a capitalist extract the surplus value from his workers?
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Karl, is that you?
I think you forgot to ask: When will capitalism stop beating its wife?
Ever heard of "Medieval Iceland?" Anarcho-capitalism worked there for 300 years.
hey man I'm serious.
Why would one want to control useless means of production?
Workers would be responsible for extracting their surplus value via a second job.
Landlords would extract rent from tenants with a little help from Bruno and his big bat.
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With or without a state, value is subjective.
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Why should anyone control the means of production used by others?
Why should a capitalist extract the surplus value from workers?
How to "extract"?
Why should anyone allow others to use his means of production?
Why should a capitalist extract the surplus value from workers? How to "extract"?
Value is subjective. There is no such thing as "surplus value". The capitalist pays a laborer the subjective, agreed upon, value of his output and charges the customer the subjective, agreed upon, value of his product. These are not the same.
What? Lockean property rights, i.e. what you don`t use, you don`t own.
Use has nothing to do with Lockean property rights, which have everything to do with creation, i.e. what you create, you own forever, or until you choose to give it away.
capitalism has never existed without state. prove me wrong. in fact it doesnt even have to be capitalism, any economic system of somewhat stable property rights requires the state. As demonstrated by the paradox in the "The failure of Anarcho-Capitalism" thread, this is STRICTLY the case. And by strictly i mean 100% exceptions are impossible. btw iceland & ireland had state functionality though somewhat differently structured. they had the final judicator / chieftan / king. it is only through the distorted eyesight of the libertarian that this system is interpreted as anarchy