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What are ways to present your argument that are not fallicious?

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eliotn Posted: Sun, Oct 5 2008 9:59 PM

With all the ways that a fallacious argument can be presented, I would like to see ways that you can present an argument that is true.

Is this a good example, the way Murry Rothbard tried to present his in man, economy, and state (sorry, I am only up to the second chapter)?

If A is true, then B must be true.

If B is true, then C must be true.

If C is true, then D must be true.

A is true.

Therefore, B, C, and D must be true.

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Don't use logical fallacies?

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Paul replied on Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:08 PM

You might start with the Wikipedia entry for "fallacy"

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BTW, false dilemmas and false analogies are awesome. I use them all the time but people rarely catch me.

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fakename replied on Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:44 PM

This is a good argument I think. It rests on the logical rule of modus ponens -the way of affirmation.  IF a-->b, a, therefore b.  So in this case the argument is modus ponens just longer. There are equally valid though wordier ways to express this same statement like for instance, If a-->b, therefore a-->a&b (the principle of absorption) but it is basically the same.  In general, I think the biggest ways people kill arguments is through circular argument (assuming what you need to prove), glittering generality (I'm in favor of the poor so I'm going to have welfare -who isn't in favor of the poor? Just because you are doesn't mean that welfare is necessary), or the charge of hypocrisy which is lame because even if you were a hypocrite it doesn't necessarily mean you're wrong.

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eliotn replied on Sun, Oct 5 2008 10:57 PM

krazy kaju:

BTW, false dilemmas and false analogies are awesome. I use them all the time but people rarely catch me.

Wait... didn't you use one on me that one time on the discussion on whether voting makes a difference?

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