I was investigating anarchist tendencies in freemasonry, as many lodges advocated secularization and a natural progression of that idea is our capitalist libertarianism. Then came across this post:
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread350849/pg1
Now, can you tell me if there are any Freemason lodges working on libertarian principles?
I have been disappointed by the intellectual level of most freemasons I have met. There even was this guy who hired someone else to write the essay on the meaning of the letter G (God and Geometry, is in the cover of the book pal!). But I am interested in knowing one who might even be using Human Action as work-book.
I am an atheist, so I really don't expect to join a lodge.
Pity the theory which sets itself up in opposition to the mind!
Carl Von Clausewitz
It's an apolitical organization. Members have different political viewpoints.
Why would you want to advocate for truth and justice in a Satanic organisation founded upon secrecy, lies and special privilege?
My understanding is that these organizations recruit and accept prominent people in their communities. Whether they have secret agendas to rule the world is... a secrect. But not all of them have lizard eyes and drink goat blood. I don't really think they are any different than frats and sororieties and other student orgs in college. But obviously there are members that are into statist stuff; Bush family, et al.
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
I'm inclined to agree with you except that this kind of thing doesn't come into sight until one is a very high-ranked member (30th degree and above). So it's more than likely that 99.9% of freemasons have no intention of dominating the world or raping children.
The Anarch is to the Anarchist what the Monarch is to the Monarchist. -Ernst Jünger
Seems to me that "secularization" or whatever tends towards statism more than anything else.
On a side note, Ron Paul wins the atheist vote in Iowa:
https://img.skitch.com/20111119-t1e5affuxipicak2eq55hnyj95.jpg
¨My understanding is that these organizations recruit and accept prominent people in their communities. Whether they have secret agendas to rule the world is... a secrect. But not all of them have lizard eyes and drink goat blood. I don't really think they are any different than frats and sororieties and other student orgs in college. But obviously there are members that are into statist stuff; Bush family, et al.¨
They don't recruit people, you have to ask to join. And members come from a wide cross-section of society. Groups like Skull and Bones, Bilderberg, Trilateral, CFR etc do actively recruit folks in positions of power or from influential families. They are not connected.
Politics and religion are not discussed in lodge meetings, it's against the rules.
Frankly a lot of this paranoia about Satanism etc came from a Church and State that were scared of guys meeting in secret. They hate it when they can´t listen in on what people think and say 24-7. And I highly doubt there are a high number of Satanists, seeing as most Satanists are in fact atheists and you have to believe in some form of a higher power to be a Freemason.
I stand corrected.