Daniel J. Sanchez: M-la-maudite: and then, Diogene Laertes? Diogenes Laertius was a biographer of philosophers. Do you mean Diogenes the Cynic? M-la-maudite:IMHO it still doesn't make him a full-blown libertarian. I don't think you need to be a complete libertarian to be considered the father of it.
M-la-maudite: and then, Diogene Laertes?
Diogenes Laertius was a biographer of philosophers. Do you mean Diogenes the Cynic?
M-la-maudite:IMHO it still doesn't make him a full-blown libertarian.
I don't think you need to be a complete libertarian to be considered the father of it.
Daniel J. Sanchez: M-la-maudite: and then, Diogene Laertes? Diogenes Laertius was a biographer of philosophers. Do you mean Diogenes the Cynic?
Yes, i do - an unforgivable mistake -;(
... the fact that the one is mostly known through the writtings of the other didn't help; still, all my apologies for the confusion!
Richard Chambers: Daniel J. Sanchez: M-la-maudite:IMHO it still doesn't make him a full-blown libertarian. I don't think you need to be a complete libertarian to be considered the father of it. If one wouldn't be considered a libertarian if he was around today, I wouldn't classify him as the father of libertarianism.
Daniel J. Sanchez: M-la-maudite:IMHO it still doesn't make him a full-blown libertarian. I don't think you need to be a complete libertarian to be considered the father of it.
The same for me; at least, to the extent that i wouldn't classify as the father of libertarianism someone who couldn't possibly espouse contemporary libertarianism if he were living during our times. Locke would irremediably disagree with the philosophical (in particular, meta-ethical) grounds, the basic ethical views and the political consequences of libertarianism.
Of course libertarianism (liberalism) have developed for a long time, bur the "father" I would say is John Locke.
M-la-maudite: The same for me; at least, to the extent that i wouldn't classify as the father of libertarianism someone who couldn't possibly espouse contemporary libertarianism if he were living during our times. Locke would irremediably disagree with the philosophical (in particular, meta-ethical) grounds, the basic ethical views and the political consequences of libertarianism.
To be the "father" I don't think that it is required that one would agree with everything that has come to be classified as libertarianism.
Urukagina
"As long as there are sovereign nations possessing great power, war is inevitable."
C.H. Hellstrom: Of course libertarianism (liberalism) have developed for a long time, bur the "father" I would say is John Locke.
Really? He is the earliest libertarian thinkers?
"The first person to describe himself as a libertarian was Joseph Déjacque, an early French anarchist communist. The word stems from the French word libertaire, and was used to evade the French ban on anarchist publications." ~ Wiki