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so-called pragmatism versus natural rights

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wilderness Posted: Tue, May 12 2009 10:35 AM

And as the Supreme Court seat opens in the U.S. this philosophical debate goes national.

The following was taken from the Wall Street Journal article titled:  

 

"When It Comes to Judges, 'Pragmatic' Means Unprincipled

How the president reasons that disregarding the rule of law can be a virtue."

 

 

Here's an excerpt from this article:

 

"Yet the term 'pragmatism' means something quite different when applied to jurisprudence from what it connotes as a description of how statesmen should approach particular issues. American judicial pragmatism originates in the thought and practice of longtime Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes Jr., who mocked the notion of natural rights and held that the very meaning of the Constitution, not just its application to particular cases, needs to be adapted to fit the most "advanced" thinking of the times.

In Holmes's hands, pragmatism was far from a consistent rationale for judicial activism: He used the notion of an inherently flexible Constitution both to uphold legislative regulations of workers' wages and hours -- and, infamously, in the 1925 case Buck v. Bell, to justify the mandatory sterilization of the retarded on the ground that 'three generations of imbeciles are enough.' Holmes's one guiding principle was the need for government to give way to the forces of ostensibly progressive historical change, and he offered no objective criterion for distinguishing progress from regress.

In a 2001 interview with a Chicago public radio station, Mr. Obama offered a radical view of the Supreme Court's capacity to transform our economic system that illuminates what the president himself evidently regards as a proper judicial pragmatism. He faulted the Warren Court for limiting its effort to defend 'previously dispossessed peoples' to investing them with 'formal rights' (e.g. protecting their right to vote), rather than addressing 'more basic issues of political and economic justice' in American society such as 'redistribution of wealth.' He attributed this failing to the Court's deference to 'the essential constraints that were placed [on our government] by the Founding Fathers and the Constitution.' Mr. Obama expressed confidence in the interview that 'any three of us sitting here could come up with a rationale for bringing about [such] economic change through the courts.'

Interestingly, Mr. Obama's wish to use the courts as an instrument for economic redistribution echoes the views of one of the leading candidates to replace Justice Souter -- Cass Sunstein.  In a 1985 article titled 'Interest Groups in American Public Law,' Mr. Sunstein, a former colleague of Mr. Obama's on the University of Chicago law faculty, called for 'vigorous . . . judicial intrusions' into the political process on behalf of such causes as income redistribution so as to overcome the supposed domination of the legislative process by 'powerful private groups.'"

 

 

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wilderness replied on Tue, May 12 2009 11:37 AM

   The redistribution of wealth mentioned in the above Wall Street Journal article in which Obama advocates natural rights and the Constitution are flawed due to their not including this positive liberty.  Listen how Obama discusses the Constitution is a negative liberty document, he explains what that means for a bit, and then goes on to say how it leaves out positive liberty, in other words he goes on to say, it doesn't provide what the government can do for you.  He goes on to explain how leaving out what the government can do for people was a flaw and that's when redistribution of wealth comes into the discussion even more.

 

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