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edfchv1 posted on Mon, May 25 2009 12:24 AM

What is the official stance of Austrian economist when it comes to "illegal" immigration?

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david_z:

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No, its just not believing that a negative right has been violated.

It seems like a sound position, after the fact. But it does nothing should the property owner discover the trespasser still on his property.

And what if you do find someone en route?  What do you get to do? And what right is in the midst of being violated?

At a minimum, send them off your property on the path of your choosing. Which unfortunately for the trespasser, could be the way they came.

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Why not charge them a shilling? Sooner or later you'll have a road built and charge those trespassers a quick passage off your land.

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David Z replied on Thu, May 28 2009 11:35 PM

Curius Dentatus:
Why not charge them a shilling?

And if they have no means to pay?

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David Z replied on Thu, May 28 2009 11:40 PM

Fair enough, I suppose, but doesn't answer the question: "What right of yours is in the midst of being violated?"

I'm OK with sending them off your land, I suppose...  But obviously without obscene barriers to entry, there will come to exist property owners who are perfecly OK with the passage, at a very minimal price.  This price will become known to prospective trespassers on other lands (as will the "price" of their trespasses elsewhere) and this minimal price ultimately wins out.  So, the idea of a geography entirely landlocked is pretty much absurd, in the abscence of nation states.

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david_z:

Fair enough, I suppose, but doesn't answer the question: "What right of yours is in the midst of being violated?"

I'm OK with sending them off your land, I suppose...  But obviously without obscene barriers to entry, there will come to exist property owners who are perfecly OK with the passage, at a very minimal price.  This price will become known to prospective trespassers on other lands (as will the "price" of their trespasses elsewhere) and this minimal price ultimately wins out.  So, the idea of a geography entirely landlocked is pretty much absurd, in the abscence of nation states.



Exactly.

 

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