Does anyone have any thoughts about the scenario where a full-fledged, monopolistic global state is instituted?
How would it evolve over the years, and (how) would it collapse?
Why anarchy fails
Well in terms of how would it evolve... just quickly.
The Drive for a World Central Bank by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
"Before I will explain why there is a drive to a world bank. I will have to discuss briefly another question, "Why is there a drive toward world government?" Because the drive toward a world bank, can best be understood as an intermediate step, in an underlying drive to world government."
Global Currency and Central Banking by Joseph T. Salerno (Mises Seminar: Money, Banking, and the New World Order)
Old, yet most of the principles still apply. i.e Instead of Nuclear Holocaust, it is Global Warming..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7CfJ8wxahA&feature=PlayList&p=B72542814F61DC87&index=0&playnext=1
Report from Iron Mountain - taken from Chapter 24 in Creature from Jeykll Island. (Seriously, read this...)
It is pretty much exactly what is happening now. Lets just say, the climate change aka man made global warming movement... ain't really about saving the environment! ;) Definite- "serious threat to the future of our personal sovereignty."
In terms of collapse... TBH, there isn't going to be a calculation problem imo. The overlords aren't stupid. How would it collapse? Civil disobedience. Which Étienne de La Boétie outlined. Though the bigger it gets, the harder it gets I assume. The more centralized, the more powerful. An Idea Whose Time Has Come. Continue the ideological battle, keep spreading the message. An "Ethics of Liberty" in every persons hand..?
"Defeating communism is impossible." Wow, how right was he!? Oh wait....
"If we wish to preserve a free society, it is essential that we recognize that the desirability of a particular object is not sufficient justification for the use of coercion."
say goodbye to all the benefits and advancements brought about by free competition. any further advancements will be retained for the power elite. life will be fairly static for the rank and file. If you're wondering what this life will be like...talk to people from the USSR.
Black Market Anarchism.
'Men do not change, they unmask themselves' - Germaine de Stael
Anarchist Cain: Black Market Anarchism.
Michael Corleone:Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in
It sounds like the ocean, smells like fresh mountain air, and tastes like the union of peanut butter and chocolate. ~Liberty Student
Harry Felker: Anarchist Cain: Black Market Anarchism. Michael Corleone:Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in
We can have decoder rings, secret hand shakes and nifty tattoos...I mean who doesn't want that? I almost feel the urge to welcome a world government so I can get my wonder twin powers going.
Anarchist Cain: Harry Felker: Anarchist Cain: Black Market Anarchism. Michael Corleone:Every time I think I'm out, they pull me back in We can have decoder rings, secret hand shakes and nifty tattoos...I mean who doesn't want that? I almost feel the urge to welcome a world government so I can get my wonder twin powers going.
This is the life I retired from....
To wash dishes...
If this turns out to be what will happen, I am going to be pissed for wasting my time washing dishes....
Dwight:It's time to prove to your friends that you're worth a damn. Sometimes that means dying, sometimes it means killing a whole lot of people
My guess is the collapse would be just like the collapse of the Soviet Union: the complete miscalculation of what is required by the market.
btw, I'm a total n00b here, how do you get the quotes to come at the end of posts?
Periodically the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots.
Thomas Jefferson
Esuric:"Defeating communism is impossible." Wow, how right was he!? Oh wait....
Haha, yeah. He is good on the methodlogical individualism side of things, i.e the conspiracy aspect, who, what, where, why, when, goals etc.
But he's a tad behind on political philosophy / economy. He quotes Rothbard's Ethics of Liberty, so he must have read it.. but he hasn't quite grasped private security and private defense agencies, as per a recent email. The historical stuff he does is great though and the other explanations.
Conza88:The Drive for a World Central Bank by Hans-Hermann Hoppe
Amazing speech! I wasn't actually looking for how it would come about, but this was really great. He consistently calls a spade a spade, detailing how the protection rackets knows as governments fought to get people to accept their counterfeiting operations. He also explains what limits the monopoly power at each step of the way, which is the other side of the coin we don't seem to focus on as much. I recommend everyone listen to it if they haven't.
The Salerno speech was OK-ish, and I've seen and read all the G. Edward Griffin stuff before - he's so astute on so many things, wish he were more anarchistic.
Conza88:TBH, there isn't going to be a calculation problem imo. The overlords aren't stupid.
Isn't the whole idea of the calculation problem that it doesn't matter how smart the leaders are? Or do you mean they would keep markets free enough to maximize tax revenues?
Alex Jones becomes God?
To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process. Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!" Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090710/155494340.html
http://www.futureworldcurrency.com/ (Notice no about section or anything like that)
Very, very few chances we'll live to see such a thing as single central government.
On the other hand the attempts to impose a centralized control over banking are strenghtening by the year. How is it coming to be? By keep hammering in people's heads that old Marxist mantra "free markets have failed" and by blowing fiscal evasion completely out of proportion. Is it working? Sadly yes, mostly because people will buy anything the soft spoken Obama of the moment will tell them on television and mostly because people always think they'll still be able to "get away with it".
Mises back in the '20s warned that Socialists may call themselves with new names and change clothes but what they want will always be the same: total control of the means of production. Since directly taking over each single business would be an enormously time consuming effort they have switched to controlling access to credit and capital accumulation. And that's how it's coming into being.