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tmeyer Posted: Mon, Aug 17 2009 12:24 PM

States socialist author Richard Wilkinson on his book Spirit Level: Why More Equal Societies Almost Always Do Better, "In a lot of different subjects there's a move towards a fundamental recognition of how social people are. In neurology, epidemiology, social psychology, child development, there's lots of evidence that humans do better if they're collaborative."

It seems to me that people will only choose to do what they perceive to be best for themselves at any time, not what's best for society. Collaboration and cooperation are vehicles for self-interest.

Whoever wants peace among nations must seek to limit the state and its influence most strictly. -Ludwig von Mises

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Someone who doesnt cooperate with others is ignorant in their own self interest.

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competition is just the mode of cooperation through which the freemarket operates. the free market is nothing but self-organised collaboration. division of labour could have no meaning otherwise.

as contrast; the mode of cooperation through which the socialised community operates is slavery.

there are no un-collaborative 'societies'. since on what grounds are we calling it a society and not just a mere collection of individuals with zero relationships between them...(if we are trying to find a non-collaborative society...)

Where there is no property there is no justice; a proposition as certain as any demonstration in Euclid

Fools! not to see that what they madly desire would be a calamity to them as no hands but their own could bring

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DanielMuff replied on Mon, Aug 17 2009 12:40 PM

Division of labor is a form of collaboration.

To paraphrase Marc Faber: We're all doomed, but that doesn't mean that we can't make money in the process.
Rabbi Lapin: "Let's make bricks!"
Stephan Kinsella: "Say you and I both want to make a German chocolate cake."

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Alice replied on Tue, Aug 18 2009 3:47 PM

since human equality is literally false (human beings are not the same), all interpretations of 'equality' always devolve into 'what I think people ought to be like' without any apparent connection to any real equiproportionality.

"The first Accounts we have of Mankind are but so many Accounts of their Butcheries.
All Empires have been cemented in Blood..."

- Edmund Burke, A Vindication of Natural Society

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