The Military, an un-Libertarian institution?

Apologies for this musing but just about everthing related to the military appears to be anti the individual. Compared to other "jobs" in scoiety that demand team work, bravery and quick thinking be it rescue services to deep sea diving, militaries the world over have a policy or tradition of breaking recruits down often in quite brutal ways. Then if they get through the training they are not normally free to leave except at specific timings and civil society doesnt have the concept of desertion as the military use it.

Apart from the wider considerations of how a military would work in a Libertarian society , could be said that a military designed using Liberatian principles would be more efficient?

Who will attack a libertarian society? That is, for what reason would a libertarian society need a formal military. Not that they couldn't have one, but I'd like to know the reason first.

I agree, there is no real need for a standing army but thats a slighly different discussion. However in the context of the current status quo do state militaries suffer from being monopoly "services"if such a term can be used. for example in now they treat their staff

 

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A nearby state, who may fear the the idea of a successful stateless society? Would TPTB in the USA accept a stateless society emerging in Canada for example? I mean, how are you going to jusitfy the welfare/warfare state funded by taxation and central banking, if there's a strong example of sociey survivng, right now, without all that shit?

Apart from the wider considerations of how a military would work in a Libertarian society , could [it] be said that a military designed using Liber[tarian] principles would be more efficient?

without a doubt, yes. The maIn problem with modern militaries is that, despite attempts to make the armed forces "voluntary," and claims to have achieved this endeavor, the contrary is clearly true. Those who voluntarily join the military are not allowed to "un-volunteer" without permission. Obtaining permission is a bureaucratic activity fraught with personal abuse and hazing. This creates an environment with less cooperation and more coercion. Disobedience of [legal] orders is a criminal offense. Obviously the legal system responsible for determining the legality of an order is controlled by the military. So you can see a conflict of interest and potential for abuse.

if servicemembership were truly voluntary, the leadership would focus their efforts on retaining personnel. As it stands now, they must fpcus their efforts on controlling uncooperative people who dont want to be there. In the former situation, they have to create incentives. In the latter, disincentives.