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How to commit online transaction when youre <18 years of age?

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Kelvin Silva Posted: Fri, Mar 29 2013 4:16 PM

I want to buy a medieval bone handled dagger online which costs around 50 dollars (legit carbon steel battle ready), and i only have paper munays. What are some ways that I can manipulate the paper moneys so i can perform online transactions?

http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AH3267&name=Medieval+Bone+Handled+Dagger

Paypal --> they check for age don't they?

Parents --> Will never let me buy a dagger...

Prepaid visa gift card --> Would an online store accept these? There is no name or address attached to one, so i dont know how they will ever accept this sort of prepaid gift card....

The online store does not accept bitcoin.

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Wheylous replied on Fri, Mar 29 2013 4:35 PM

I'm glad we filed this under "Economics Questions".

As to how to do it - I'm not sure. I would just say that if you're parents are against it you should consider that they might be right :P

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Well, what always has been bothering me though is that I can be under 18 years of age and perform physical monetary transactions without any problem (buying a drink at the store or whatever).

In the year of 2013, the same easiness should also be applied to online transactions don't you think?

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Blargg replied on Fri, Mar 29 2013 5:11 PM

Find an accomplice, wait a few years, or change the laws. The online stores are just avoiding possible aggression from the state if one of their customers injures themselves.

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Primetime replied on Fri, Mar 29 2013 5:20 PM

Sure thing bro...

You can make it happen.  I got a few ideas, but can't really type it all out right now.  I'll be back later.

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If your parents don't let you buy a dagger, don't buy a freaking dagger you dumb shit.   

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If your parents don't let you buy a dagger, don't buy a freaking dagger you dumb shit. 

how very unlibertarian are you! what happened to free will?

Anyways, im using money i stored up over time.... Not like im stealing anything.

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Marko replied on Fri, Mar 29 2013 6:36 PM

Is there any reason you can't get a Visa Electron debit card?

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Convince your parents. I don't think paypal cofirms age though. 

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Prepaid visa gift card --> Would an online store accept these? There is no name or address attached to one, so i dont know how they will ever accept this sort of prepaid gift card....

Yes.

They act just like credit cards.

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Malachi replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 3:13 PM

making this thread was a great p.r. move.

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Blargg replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 4:26 PM

For Visa?

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Malachi replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 4:51 PM

for austrian anarchists because of all the help arming a minor (contrary to the wishes of his parents) potentially in violation of statute etc,

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Malachi replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 5:14 PM

see, the problem is you have raised your profile so I couldnt even give you advice now if I wanted to. you kids.

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Personal message?

Never knew owning a dagger would be so dangerous. Its just a dagger. People on tv talk about guns all the time.

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Malachi replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 7:36 PM

people on tv are designed to be poor role models

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Primetime replied on Sat, Mar 30 2013 9:48 PM

Okay, back...

So first of all, no, you actually can create a Paypal account with fake info.  The only issue then is, how do you get money in it?  If you're not worried about a trail, you can simply pay someone to send you the money.  Transactions between Paypal accounts are free (so long as they are US Paypal accounts, and the source is Paypal funds, or a bank account).

So at the easiest, you just create a US Paypal account, find someone else with a US Paypal account that either has a bank account tied to it, or has funds in their paypal balance, and give them cash to send you what you need via Paypal.  Then you can buy pretty much anything you want online.

Another option as a few guys have said is prepaid cards.  There's quite a few options here, but only a small few apply to you.  Some prepaid cards require you to register a pre-existing bank account with the card (meaning, you need to actually have a bank account, and tie it to the card...confirming your identity.)  If you have a bank account, and you're not worried about anonymity, this is certainly an option.  Generally these are the cards that are reloadable, so you can keep adding money to the card, and essentially have a working debit card that works everywhere the credit card would.

However, I assume if you had a bank account, you'd have an actual debit card that you could be using, meaning you wouldn be posting this thread.

So you'll just go with the one-time prepaid cards.  They sell these along with the reloadable ones pretty much everywhere...Walmart, Walgreens, even grocery stores.  They're right there with all the gift cards to restaurants and stores and stuff.  But of course these are "gift cards" that work anywhere, like a credit card.  You find one with a value close to what you need, and you can pay cash for it...Generally round amounts like $25, $50, etc.  Most cards have a set amount that the card is worth at the time of purchase, and cost $3.95 to as high as $7 or so (plus the amount you want to load on the card, of course)...but I know of at least one American Express gift card that you can load with any amount from $25-$500 at the time of purchase.  The cost of the card is $5.95.

That actually seems like your best bet.

JUST BE SURE TO READ THE FINE PRINT on the card before you you try to buy it, so you can make sure it's not one that requires a bank account or any sort of ID confirmation.

Now just don't go do something stupid like have it shipped to your house at a time when your parents will find it.

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Marko replied on Sun, Mar 31 2013 1:56 AM

for austrian anarchists because of all the help arming a minor (contrary to the wishes of his parents) potentially in violation of statute etc,

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you can always sharpen it....

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Marko replied on Sun, Mar 31 2013 3:26 AM

And then what? You're going to carry a 1/2 meter long sword into a discotheque?

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I finally bought the dagger!

Just need to wait for the shipment.

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Anenome replied on Tue, Apr 2 2013 6:24 PM

Use bitcoin with Bitspend?

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