if we want a stateless society, why dont a team of private investors and political refugees colonize Somalia
do we get free cheezeburger in socielism?
Stranger:But the point is that I love my country. Don't you?
I've traveled a wee bit. I like my country, but in many ways, it is inferior to others I have been to. I don't feel I particularly owe it anything in the way of allegiance or loyalty.
I could learn to love a free country, regardless of the climate or geography. Being free is more important to me than acknowledging my history and the history of my ancestors with a particular state.
@all, I second the Liberty Colony idea. It's possible that an exodus may at one point be the only option left to us. The world is certainly not getting less statist. Things are moving in the wrong direction, and while choosing to stand and fight might be honourable, it's wise to pick the battles you can win. If you can't beat the state, then change the game. Plus the entrepreneurial opportunities for a Liberty Colony could be tremendous.
liberty student: Max has not brought up the LC 1/10th as much as others have in other threads. Usually, it is brought up to personally attack him. You've got nothing to stand on, when you have already introduced the LC as a topic and conflated it with Somalia in other threads. You have completely undermined any argument you can have against his promotion, when you use it as a tactic to attack him personally. So yes, you are trolling.
Max has not brought up the LC 1/10th as much as others have in other threads. Usually, it is brought up to personally attack him.
You've got nothing to stand on, when you have already introduced the LC as a topic and conflated it with Somalia in other threads. You have completely undermined any argument you can have against his promotion, when you use it as a tactic to attack him personally.
So yes, you are trolling.
You're confused here, he started using any chance to promote the LC far and attack the rest of us for "not doing anything" before I said anything about him doing so, how could it be the other way around?
"You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows"
Bob Dylan
The liberty colonies all over the world include:
(from liberty colony website)
AngolaAntigua and Barbuda (Island of Redonda)Burkina FasoComorosDemocratic Republic of the CongoCote d'IvoireDjiboutiDominicaEquatorial GuineaFiji Islands (uninhabited islands)GambiaGreenlandGrenadaGuineaGuinea-BissauHaitiKiribatiLiberiaMalawiMaldivesMarshall IslandsNauruNigerSierra LeoneSolomon IslandsSomaliaSomalilandTogoTongaTuvaluVanuatuWestern Sahara
No sense in trying to construct another strawman to get out from under the record of your posting. Just drop it and move on.
John Ess: The liberty colonies all over the world include: (from liberty colony website) [snip]
[snip]
Those are the proposed locations where through some system of paid vote the final choice of the colony is determined democratically.
Anonymous Coward: John Ess: The liberty colonies all over the world include: (from liberty colony website) [snip] Those are the proposed locations where through some system of paid vote the final choice of the colony is determined democratically.
shhh you.
I think you mean that the stakeholders and participants will decide amongst themselves where they will go. Personally, I'd like to see the LC attract several hundred potential stakeholders, and when the final location is decided upon, those who disagree, get their money back and do not have to go.
That seems pretty fair to me. Voluntary participation with a money back guarantee. Doesn't get a whole lot more libertarian than that.
liberty student: No sense in trying to construct another strawman to get out from under the record of your posting. Just drop it and move on.
You make accusations of strawmen alot, often epic fails. I still wonder if you're entirely sure what constitutes a straw man.
The LC is directly related to this thread, and he hasn't even brought it up that much.
Get over it and continue discussion.
GilesStratton: Remind me again, why should we? In any case Somalia isn't Anarcho Capitalist really it's run by warlords and as far I know a number of groups are all fighting for control of whatever government the UN wishes to create.
Remind me again, why should we? In any case Somalia isn't Anarcho Capitalist really it's run by warlords and as far I know a number of groups are all fighting for control of whatever government the UN wishes to create.
Sigh...
Please, point me to the warlords.
Also, try and explain how capitalism - a system of state backed capital - can possibly be connected to Anarchism?
The Origins of Capitalism
And for more periodic bloggings by moi,
Leftlibertarian.org
Niccolò: GilesStratton: Remind me again, why should we? In any case Somalia isn't Anarcho Capitalist really it's run by warlords and as far I know a number of groups are all fighting for control of whatever government the UN wishes to create. Sigh... Please, point me to the warlords. Also, try and explain how capitalism - a system of state backed capital - can possibly be connected to Anarchism?
You look to point that out at every opportunity you get, no?
GilesStratton: You look to point that out at every opportunity you get, no?
Yup.
That term needs to be destroyed. The sooner you guys give up the word capitalism the better.
Niccolò: Also, try and explain how capitalism - a system of state backed capital - can possibly be connected to Anarchism?
Under anarchism, capital is no longer subjected to the state - it can now back and protect itself. As such it becomes a much purer form of capitalism.
The fallacies of intellectual communism, a compilation - On the nature of power
Stranger: Niccolò: Also, try and explain how capitalism - a system of state backed capital - can possibly be connected to Anarchism? Under anarchism, capital is no longer subjected to the state - it can now back and protect itself. As such it becomes a much purer form of capitalism.
No. It becomes a contradiction of capitalism.
Niccolò:That term needs to be destroyed. The sooner you guys give up the word capitalism the better.
Capitalism is an excellent term and I'm happy that in the current economic climate, it's usage and usefulness is increasing as the tides of socialism and fascism are rejected and diminished.
liberty student: Niccolò:That term needs to be destroyed. The sooner you guys give up the word capitalism the better. Capitalism is an excellent term and I'm happy that in the current economic climate, it's usage and usefulness is increasing as the tides of socialism and fascism are rejected and diminished.
Except everyone recognizes that the cause of the current economic crises is capitalism.
I'm sure connies like you enjoy being the grumpy, old men who never got anything done though.
Btw. Capitalism = Fascism.